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Can Macs get viruses?
Replies: 37Last Post Dec. 6, 2007 9:22pm by Stormblazer
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Quote: from pleaseremove at 4:58 am on July 19, 2007

Quote: from Cingular Wireless at 2:38 am on July 19, 2007

Mac's are less likely to get a virus also because of their secure unix base. Even if a Virus was writted for a Mac it would be very hard for it to spread. Especialy since Mac's files are stand alone usualy and don't require installation. And most people using Mac's are smart enough to not open every freakin file they see.

Being Unix has almost nothing to do with it really, it to do with you not being able to run as root.

And what do you think installation involves? Because last i looked it it just copying files to the right places and sometimes a few reg keys. Note reg keys were made years ago (windows 3.1 in fact) to get away from the file based preferences that macs used. It was deemed to be a bit of a mess.


The Registry is the stupidest part of a PC to me, it get's fragmented and sometimes corrupts which can bring the whole system down. Mac's can run root also. It's harder for a Virus to spread to other files because pretty much each program in a Mac is isolated.

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Quote: from Cingular Wireless at 12:58 am on July 24, 2007

Quote: from pleaseremove at 4:58 am on July 19, 2007

Quote: from Cingular Wireless at 2:38 am on July 19, 2007

Mac's are less likely to get a virus also because of their secure unix base. Even if a Virus was writted for a Mac it would be very hard for it to spread. Especialy since Mac's files are stand alone usualy and don't require installation. And most people using Mac's are smart enough to not open every freakin file they see.
 

 Being Unix has almost nothing to do with it really, it to do with you not being able to run as root.  

 And what do you think installation involves? Because last i looked it it just copying files to the right places and sometimes a few reg keys. Note reg keys were made years ago (windows 3.1 in fact) to get away from the file based preferences that macs used. It was deemed to be a bit of a mess.


The Registry is the stupidest part of a PC to me, it get's fragmented and sometimes corrupts which can bring the whole system down. Mac's can run root also. It's harder for a Virus to spread to other files because pretty much each program in a Mac is isolated.

Mac's can't run in root. There is no true root on a Mac...

The registry doesn't get fragmented as such, it gets filled up with crap that isn't removed when a program is uninstalled. That's down to poor practice of manufactures.

There is no more real isolation on OSX over that of windows, its just that the digital rights management has been allowed to be bypassed much more regularly. Programs could be installed in such a way that required them to run in admin only. The fault of MS here was they didn't clamp down heavily enough on how programs could be installed. Now they have done that too.

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Quote: from pleaseremove at 7:21 pm on July 23, 2007

Quote: from Cingular Wireless at 12:58 am on July 24, 2007

Quote: from pleaseremove at 4:58 am on July 19, 2007

Quote: from Cingular Wireless at 2:38 am on July 19, 2007

Mac's are less likely to get a virus also because of their secure unix base. Even if a Virus was writted for a Mac it would be very hard for it to spread. Especialy since Mac's files are stand alone usualy and don't require installation. And most people using Mac's are smart enough to not open every freakin file they see.
 

  Being Unix has almost nothing to do with it really, it to do with you not being able to run as root.  

  And what do you think installation involves? Because last i looked it it just copying files to the right places and sometimes a few reg keys. Note reg keys were made years ago (windows 3.1 in fact) to get away from the file based preferences that macs used. It was deemed to be a bit of a mess.


The Registry is the stupidest part of a PC to me, it get's fragmented and sometimes corrupts which can bring the whole system down. Mac's can run root also. It's harder for a Virus to spread to other files because pretty much each program in a Mac is isolated.

Mac's can't run in root. There is no true root on a Mac...  

The registry doesn't get fragmented as such, it gets filled up with crap that isn't removed when a program is uninstalled. That's down to poor practice of manufactures.

There is no more real isolation on OSX over that of windows, its just that the digital rights management has been allowed to be bypassed much more regularly. Programs could be installed in such a way that required them to run in admin only. The fault of MS here was they didn't clamp down heavily enough on how programs could be installed. Now they have done that too.


Mac's do have a true root through the Command utilities window, I know because I do access it.

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Mac's do have a true root through the Command utilities window, I know because I do access it.

Admin != root.


Unless you're running Os X server, root is disable by default, and you need to run through a series of steps to get it working.  And that being said, OS X only has root for dev purposes.

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I'm thinking of buying a mac and i was wondeing do I need to run any antivirus programs?

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yes, but there are less virus for macs

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One thing I will say is that one of the reasons I believe Mac's don't have the problems with Viruses, spy ware etc... is because apple don't really develop lots of third party applications for there OS. Look at the amount of shit out there for windows.

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Of course they can.
There's just fewer written. Of course, if more people buy Macs, then more viruses will be written for the Mac.

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