Post edited at 6:15 pm on July 6, 2008 by pumpkin475

You are not a very nce person.

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Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair,
gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your
inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet
spirit which is of great worth in God's sight

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I have sympathy for any person who feels that life is not worth living anymore or that there is nothing they can do, I dont care how silly the reasoning behind it is.

 
You are not a very nce person.

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Quote: from barnabas at 5:23 pm on July 6, 2008

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I have sympathy for any person who feels that life is not worth living anymore or that there is nothing they can do, I dont care how silly the reasoning behind it is.  

 
 You are not a very nce person.

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oh i'm very nice. stern, but nice

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who gave you the right to decide who is and is not "worthy of sympathy"???

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Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair,
gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your
inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet
spirit which is of great worth in God's sight

EDIT: O i read bout your abuse part, sorry.

' but for those people who sit around complaining about themselves when they have the power to change themselves but they just wont, i have no sympathy for'-
I agree! The amount of fucking people i see moaning about how bad their lifes are...seriously...SHUT UP. :D. 90% of the time, their pretty good.

Is what happened to a member of my family.

Post edited at 5:33 pm on July 6, 2008 by Uhhello

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You don't know everything about the girl's life. You mentioned her Mom but not Dad. Maybe she had/has a bad relationship with him. Or it could be something else that you don't know about.

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this girl used to be one of my closest friends, before she screwed up majorly with me (but that's a different story)

anyway yes her father is where she got her anger issue. he wasn't a good father and she's told me everything

apparantly you missed the part in my topic where i talked about how i hated when people were suicidal with the ability to change

her father hasn't lived with her for about 2 years. and her father is not the cause for everything wrong in her life.

my point is that people can face hardships and still fight through them. she chooses to go the hard route and just make everything difficult for herself, instead of trying to change. i will give her credit for having changed a couple qualities of her, which is a start. but that only proves my point about suicide. i would show no sympathy to her because for one, she already PROVED that she has the ability to change because she changed some things about herself. so if she killed herself, i would have no sympathy because she gave up selfishly, leaving everyone to mourn for her and take yeasr to get used to the fact that she is gone

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Quote: from pumpkin475 at 7:26 pm on July 6, 2008

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Quote: from barnabas at 5:23 pm on July 6, 2008

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I have sympathy for any person who feels that life is not worth living anymore or that there is nothing they can do, I dont care how silly the reasoning behind it is.

   
  You are not a very nce person.

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oh i'm very nice. stern, but nice

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who gave you the right to decide who is and is not "worthy of sympathy"???

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i dont bow down to people who dig around for compliments everywhere they are and cause all this unecessary drama everywhere they go.....

i just cant sympathize someone like that

' aaaanyway my point is i can't stand people who are suicidal without understandable reason to be'

Aka, people who just feel sorry for themselves and attension seek and probally will never actually attempt suicide...

And they dont deserve sympathy :), i agrees =)

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cheating on someone is NOWHERE NEAR feeling suicidal. at all. i dont get where your coming from.

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the two situations have a very important quality in them: selfishness

that was the point i was getting across.

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Quote: from barnabas at 5:28 pm on July 6, 2008

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Quote: from pumpkin475 at 7:26 pm on July 6, 2008

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Quote: from barnabas at 5:23 pm on July 6, 2008

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I have sympathy for any person who feels that life is not worth living anymore or that there is nothing they can do, I dont care how silly the reasoning behind it is.    

     
  You are not a very nce person.

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oh i'm very nice. stern, but nice

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 who gave you the right to decide who is and is not "worthy of sympathy"???

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correction: i never said i am the official judge of who deserves sympathy. i said I show no sympathy. if other people want to then that's their business

i dont bow down to people who dig around for compliments everywhere they are and cause all this unecessary drama everywhere they go.....

i just cant sympathize someone like that

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AND I HATE GIRLS THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT THEMSELFS ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF BAD AND/OR ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS

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Now you're thinking with portals.

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suicide can be lookd at as selfish or not selfish. ppl think its selfish becuz they're gonna leave everything jus cuz they r a little sad. ppl think it isnt selfish cuz the suicidal person honestly does NOT want to be alive anymore, but the ppl stopping this person dnt want her to becuz they jus want her to be around so THEY dont feel sad, in turn making THEM the selfish ones.
i look at it both ways but w.e

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when one person kills themself, they leave NUMEROUS people to suffer. it is an incredible pain to loose someone. have you ever lost someone before? someone close. if you have, then you know how bad it hurts and how long it takes to get over it (and some people dont get over it). you see when someone kills themself, the people left behind often spend their entire life hating themself because they feel like it might have been their fault or they could have done something to prevent that person for suicide. all these different repercussions take place all because of ONE person's selfish act. that is lot of crap to go through because of one person

however if that person remains alive, sure they'll still be depressed but i believe it's better for one person to be depressed rather than an entire family and all those friends be depressed as well as some living in remorse for the rest of their lives.

and not to mention how this person who wants to end their life has the chance to make life better. but they refuse that chance. so it's selfish. they could have changed, but they rather not and leave everyone to suffer.