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Black or African?
Replies: 34Last Post July 11 7:31am by mama16advice
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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 5:25 am on July 7, 2008

South African? Do you live on a big plantation on land that you stole from the Zulus? Let me guess, all of your maids are black, right?
 Let me ask your question back at you... Because how did America come to be? By Europeans going there and killing off the locals, stealing their land and claiming it as their own. But thats half off the topic. Being black is just a color. Its not an ethnicity.  

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jakelong


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they can call themselves whatver they want. STFU

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youcef


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Quote: from Werewolf at 11:23 pm on July 6, 2008

Are you sure you are African American? Or are you just plain black American? See, being black and American does not automatically make you African American. Did you, your parents or grandparents emigrate to America from Africa? Where in Africa do you originate from? If you cannot answer yes to the one question or give a location for the second one, YOU ARE NOT AFRICAN American. I'm white, was born and raised in South Africa. Still living there in fact. If I were to move to America and become an American citizen, then I would be an African American. Even though I'm white. Cos I am an African. Can you really say YOU are African? Can you really call yourself an African American?

Sir I am black, and I cannot say that I am African. BUT I CAN SAY THIS:

I am a descendant of stolen Africans. If you want to get technical, I can get technical too.


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so now you trying to steal my ethnicity from me"?

what the fuck?

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Quote: from Springs at 12:59 am on July 7, 2008

so now you trying to steal my ethnicity from me"?

what the fuck?



Funny shit isn't it?


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Quote: from youcef at 10:02 pm on July 6, 2008

Quote: from Springs at 12:59 am on July 7, 2008

so now you trying to steal my ethnicity from me"?  

 what the fuck?


 
Funny shit isn't it?


quite funny



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amanitta


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maybe u can't call yourself .either can i call myself afro-american
bcs being an afro-american means a lot .
and i wanted to comment on the last question u 've asked : this one about the country or location do black come from.i guess it should have an answer.bcs it's quite sure that european have taken black(slaves) from specific places i mean it should be one of these places :senegal,cote d'ivoire,gambia,sierra leone..i mean it's rather impossible to bring slaves from such places as kenya,malawi or zambia..of course it's due to many reasons which i'm not gonna to mention it since it's expected to be known..well that's my point of view : i'm not racist !

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Quote: from amanitta at 10:20 am on July 7, 2008

maybe u can't call yourself .either can i call myself afro-american
bcs being an afro-american means a lot .
and i wanted to comment on the last question u 've asked : this one about the country or location do black come from.i guess it should have an answer.bcs it's quite sure that european have taken black(slaves) from specific places i mean it should be one of these places :senegal,cote d'ivoire,gambia,sierra leone..i mean it's rather impossible to bring slaves from such places as kenya,malawi or zambia..of course it's due to many reasons which i'm not gonna to mention it since it's expected to be known..well that's my point of view : i'm not racist !

That's a fair point. Any American descendants of African slaves can trace their origin with reasonable certainty to West Africa. But that's not good enough for you?


That aside, I actually agree. You're an African American when you've got some reasonable tie to Africa. Tunisian immigrants here are African Americans. Afrikaaner immigrants are African Americans. Black people whose families were brought here as slaves generations upon generations before my families left from Europe are black, but can you really say that they're African American?

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i like afro-american

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babygurl 2008


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I have to disagree with you on that because if you were to come to the  United States and become a citizen they'll never refer to you as African American what I mean by that is because I'm from Haiti and my parents are citizens were black but we still known as Haitian American, what ever part of Africa your from they'll be specific for example if your from Nigeria which is in Africa when you become citizen in the U.S they'll refer to you as Nigerian American.

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NuclearSun


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Technically aren't all americans from somewhere else? Well unless you are Native American. No one is ever going to be happy with everyone. "African American" was derived to be a PC way of calling someone black. Not every black person is from Africa like some of you have said.

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Quote: from Werewolf at 9:00 pm on July 6, 2008

Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 5:25 am on July 7, 2008

South African? Do you live on a big plantation on land that you stole from the Zulus? Let me guess, all of your maids are black, right?
Let me ask your question back at you... Because how did America come to be? By Europeans going there and killing off the locals, stealing their land and claiming it as their own. But thats half off the topic. Being black is just a color. Its not an ethnicity.

Of course I know that the colonists and Conquistadors that founded this country did horrible things to the natives and destroyed them, the land, and stole everything from them. That is something I discuss avidly.

If black is not an ethnicity, then how come they are so brutally oppressed by the white controlled government? Bad luck?

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mikey626


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This subject really interests me cause I happen to be black but I dont consider myself or my ancestors from africa....good observation in my opinion.

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justfriends


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Quote: from mikey626 at 1:29 am on July 9, 2008

This subject really interests me cause I happen to be black but I dont consider myself or my ancestors from africa....good observation in my opinion.

your ancestors are from africa. you can trace them back to africa. so that makes no sense.

maybe your ancestors within 400 years but after that they were in africa.

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Joker31


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Exactly how far removed from Africa do you have to be before you stop being "African American"?  My ancestors were from England, but I have never once referred to myself as "English American."  If you don't have any living relatives who were BORN in Africa, much less have ever even BEEN to Africa, how 'African' are you really?  

I wonder how many people who identify themselves as African Americans can even point to Africa on a fucking map.  


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