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Thomas Paine was wrong

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Quote: from Permious at 3:05 pm on July 8, 2008

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The government are the ones who protect us. God bless America.

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Suuuuure they are. Here, I'll throw another quote at you.

"He who would give up essential freedoms for a modicum of security deserves neither." - Benjamin Franklin.

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Nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices
calling for change.

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I don't deserve security but I'll enjoy it anyway.

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You think you have security? I lol @ you.

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If crime fighters fight crime
and fire fighters fight fire,
what do freedom fighters fight?

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The government should fear its people, the people should not fear their government. ~ Me (probably paraphrased from someone famous)

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Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

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Oh how times have ... well, not changed.

Patriotism is the easiest way to manipulate people; make them think it is honorable to support a nation at an early age and teach them the value of such - "patriotic." By enhancing it with positive symbols (aka: Semiotics), you will create a generation of people who think it is wonderful to be patriotic.

Make no mistake, the Nazis were beyond patriotic. It should not be the country you support, but the cause. Of course, once you go to the cause then you are in the court of Reason and no longer the court of land.

Lazarsfeld (American side, of course) and Göring were genius': they knew the greatest danger of all to their way was critical thought.

tk

Post edited at 2:24 pm on July 8, 2008 by tkster

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"Argentum qui amat, cum argento numquam satiabitur." ~ Solomon

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Hermann Göring, Second in command of the Nazi Party:

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Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

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tk

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"Argentum qui amat, cum argento numquam satiabitur." ~ Solomon

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom ... go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels nor arms. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry