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A Question on Grammar Who/Whom POINTS
Replies: 9Last Post Dec. 3, 2008 7:31am by CherryD
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All my points for whoever (whomever?) may assuage my grammatical conundrum.

In a recent topic I posted this:


To whoever's post happens above roflfuckyou's, if she is to post in this topic.

Should it be whoever's or whomever's?  

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OK did some research on the argument, and it hit me; the original sentence you gave is not grammatically correct, regardless of the whomever/whoever conflict. Once you fix the sentence, you can figure out if the whomever/whoever clause is the subject or object. If it's the subject, then it's whoever. If it's the object, then it's whomever. I think.

Post edited at 8:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 by Praise the Lard

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Either way, it should be GLOWINTHEDARK that gets points.


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i say whoever....

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i told you to ask Praise the Lard.

will you ever listen to me?

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The case given here is a use of English possessive, which is formed by adding an -'s suffix to the subjective form of the word.  'Whoever' is subjective, where 'whomever' is objective.

For the record, in most English dialects, 'whomever' is more or less defunct.  I would say that it's generally appropriate to not use it at all.

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most people say whoever, but its "whomever".

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whomever's

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'to which ever person (obj) whose (possessive) post...'

'person' suspended in ellipsis, 'whose' + 'ever' --> "whoever's"

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There's usually two subjects in that sentence, right? So if you are not talking about the main subject, then it's whomever...

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