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Do you hate Bush and why?
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Choice Votes Percent  
Yes, Bush is teh sux! 571 27%
Yes, I have reasons for hating Bush 811 38%
Eh whatever he sucks, but not worse than most others 200 9%
Hey at least it wasn't Kerry or Gore 251 11%
No, how can you hate Bush he is 1337 270 12%
Vote Now! 2103 Votes Cast
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No, but I hate his presidency.

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Do I hate Bush? Let's see...

15 million people worldwide protested his invasion of Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11), but his administration brushed them off like they were nothing. We invaded and destroyed their infrastructure so that they were forced to rely on the troops for stability while the same troops were killing and torturing innocent people there.

Bush had been interested in invading Iraq as far back as two years before 9/11. The terrorist attacks were just a convenient excuse to polarize the people of this country against Iraq in order to justify his invasion. After taking over Iraq, Bush bought a company that makes oil filters... I'd say he's definitely following in daddy's footsteps.

The "weapons of mass destruction" were never found. The "programs to build weapons of mass destruction" were never confirmed. The country probably never would've been a significant threat to the U.S. The most they ever did was send scud missiles to Israel (half of which never reached their destination). And what was the Bush Administration's reaction to all this?

Oops... Oh, well. The world is better off.

The man took the largest budget surplus, and turned it into the largest budget deficit. Of course, he blames 9/11, but, even during the wars that we've participated in, the U.S. economy hasn't dropped as much as it has  during Bush's first term.

In addition this, Bush has also legalized aerial wolf hunting! Wolves happen to be endangered, and I doubt that being killed by random planes swooping by is going to help that!

Also, CIA agents who are questioning his motives are being fired, actors who oppose him are slowly losing their careers, and he threatens to deport anyone who is included in any institution or company that he, in his ultimate Godly wisdom, thinks could possibly be a terrorist organization or involved with such.

He says things like:

"I understand there's a suspicion that we—we're too security-conscience."

"They misunderestimated me."

"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off."

"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat."

"My views are one that speaks to freedom."

And, of course, there are his famous Christian fundamentalist views on gay marriage and the "harm" that it does to the "family unit." So... what's my say on that?

I think Bush's wife needs to have a serious car accident, and end up in the intensive care ward. Mr. Bush should NOT be allowed to see her. The health insurance company should drop him. He should not be able to claim tax breaks for having a wife. And then when she dies, he should not get ANY death insurance benefits whatsoever or monetary help in the funeral. And then when he goes to the funeral, there should be a bunch of cultist retards protesting his love for her and celebrating the fact that she's in hell.

Then, and only then, will I give one single sh*t about what Bush thinks of gay marriage.

His administration has done more to remove the freedoms of the American people than any terrorist ever has.

George Bush, his administration, and the things they have done make me ashamed to be part of this country.

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Hey, it's Michael Moore incarnate! Complete with all the spun facts and propaganda!!!

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Translation: Hey, if I don't agree with a statement which contradicts my shoddy beliefs, I'll just label it 'propaganda'! Wow, that will save me having to think!

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Quote: from mountain hare at 2:40 am on July 19, 2005


Translation: Hey, if I don't agree with a statement which contradicts my shoddy beliefs, I'll just label it 'propaganda'! Wow, that will save me having to think!

Nah, it's been gone over hundreds of times in this forum why his reasons are bad and/or fallacious.

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Nah, it's been gone over hundreds of times in this forum why his reasons are bad and/or fallacious.
 

You know those two small globes in your head called eyes? Direct them toward my name. See where it says "Grasshopper?" That means I haven't been here long, and I refuse to sift through every topic on Bush. If all my reasons are so easily refuted, why don't you do it yourself?

Oh, that Michael Moore comment just hurts. I'm going to shy away now, as all the material presented in my post is completely invalidated by your single sentence... By the way, I've never seen Fahrenheit 9/11, so the clever little Michael Moore bit won't work, anyway.

(If you're saying these things because you support Bush, then I won't expect much because you're probably mentally GONE at this point.)

(Edited by Aamplythikheyes at 4:19 am on July 19, 2005)

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"We invaded and destroyed their infrastructure so that they were forced to rely on the troops for stability while the same troops were killing and torturing innocent people there."

It always suprises me when detractors bring up the whole Abu Ghirab (sp?) prison torture thing, because it's so fucking irrelevant. In a war based on false pretences (LOL FLAMEZ!) where thousands of civilians have been killed, opponents instead choose to pick up on some terror suspects who lost their dignity. Never mind the death, that Iraqi had his feelings hurt!

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Quote: from GI Joe at 2:10 pm on July 19, 2005

It always suprises me when detractors bring up the whole Abu Ghirab (sp?) prison torture thing, because it's so fucking irrelevant.

Abu Ghirab is hardly irrelevant.  It has greatly undermined the US' credibility and "moral authority".   We claimed Saddam abused prisoners- so what do we do- we abused prisoners!   Don't think the enemy hasn't used Abu Ghirab very effectively!  The US is so distrusted now that Iraqis think WE are the terrorists!

(Edited by ZenaGirl at 12:46 pm on July 20, 2005)

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Well, having invaded their country and bombed the shit out of a lot of it, the US must seem like terrorists to most Iraqis.

I don't see why morals should have any bearing on the situation, it's a WAR. If some Iraqis getting thier nuts wired to batteries saves American lives, shouldn't we be in favour of it?

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I disagree with just about every platform Bush stands for. The war aside, I disagree with his stances on gay rights, stem cell research, abortion- you know, all the wedge issues.

But really, I think many people's hate of Bush is misplaced. Sure, I don't like him, but it's not all his fault. There's over a 90% incumbancy reelection rate in the Congress, and everything has to go through the Congress before it's changed. So really, equal blame should go to Congress and to individual voters for not voting for/writing to their representatives.  


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Quote: from ZenaGirl at 12:44 pm on July 20, 2005

Quote: from GI Joe at 2:10 pm on July 19, 2005

It always suprises me when detractors bring up the whole Abu Ghirab (sp?) prison torture thing, because it's so fucking irrelevant.

Abu Ghirab is hardly irrelevant.  It has greatly undermined the US' credibility and "moral authority".   We claimed Saddam abused prisoners- so what do we do- we abused prisoners!   Don't think the enemy hasn't used Abu Ghirab very effectively!  The US is so distrusted now that Iraqis think WE are the terrorists!

(Edited by ZenaGirl at 12:46 pm on July 20, 2005)





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Quote: from guesswho1121 at 6:00 pm on July 20, 2005


So if your cartoon is right then what the hell are we busting our butts and killing our ourselves to help then for?   Let's get our boys out of that hell-hole and let Arabs live under whatever dictator they want.  

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Quote: from guesswho1121 at 3:00 pm on July 20, 2005

Quote: from ZenaGirl at 12:44 pm on July 20, 2005

Quote: from GI Joe at 2:10 pm on July 19, 2005

It always suprises me when detractors bring up the whole Abu Ghirab (sp?) prison torture thing, because it's so fucking irrelevant.
 

 Abu Ghirab is hardly irrelevant.  It has greatly undermined the US' credibility and "moral authority".   We claimed Saddam abused prisoners- so what do we do- we abused prisoners!   Don't think the enemy hasn't used Abu Ghirab very effectively!  The US is so distrusted now that Iraqis think WE are the terrorists!  
 

(Edited by ZenaGirl at 12:46 pm on July 20, 2005)




lol, right-wing propaganda. So deliciously absurd.

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Quote: from charolastra at 7:14 pm on July 20, 2005

lol, right-wing propaganda. So deliciously absurd.

What is right-wing propaganda charolastra?  The cartoon?  Well for once I think guesswho is right- the Arabs hate us and they are going to hate us no matter what we do for them.

People in a failed society need a boggie-man to blame for all their problems and for years the US has been their boggie-man and we will keep on being their boggie-man as long as we are over there so let's get the hell out.



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That is a great cartoon.

Pull the troops out and religious tyranny will rise, and Iraq will turn into either an intolerant theocracy or a warzone between the Sunnis and the Shi'ites (Can't spell 'em.)

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