Essentially it's about how Thomas is a race traitor because he subscribes to the republican ideology (which is allegedly anti-black according to the assumptions of the article) and has beliefs and ideas which run contrary to that of the black community's collective. Here's some of the more telling quotes in the article (I won't quote the whole thing because it's far too long):

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[H]is core pathology is Black-directed - a trait so obvious it was immediately perceived by a succession of white Republican racists who rocketed him to the U.S. Supreme Court with obscene haste to become a hit-man against his own people.

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If African Americans had our own insane asylum, Thomas would be welcomed in and cared for, with proper compassion for the sorely afflicted. But there are no such facilities available to treat a man who forgives whites for Jim Crow and every other aspect of past and present discrimination - indeed, embraces the most racist among them

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When Clarence gained entrance to an almost lily-white Catholic seminary, with vague ideas about becoming a priest, old man Anderson warned, "don't you shame me and don't you shame your race.'"

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Thomas claims he quit the seminary when, on news of the shooting of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., he overheard a white student say "Well, that's good. I hope the SOB dies" - evidence that the Catholic Church had failed him.  

Note that Thomas does not punch the white kid out, for which he might have been expelled.

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To win racist white favor and praise, Thomas has signaled that he does not recognize the logic of the 1954 Brown school desegregation decision. "'Racial isolation' itself is not a harm; only state-enforced segregation is. After all, if separation itself is a harm, and if integration therefore is the only way that blacks can receive a proper education, then there must be something inferior about blacks."

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Home is what Clarence has been running from all along - although he can't escape the formative environment in which he sickened so early in life. He's really in Purgatory, and trying to put the rest of us in Hell.

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So ponder this. Is an individual, specifically a black man in Clarence Thomas's case, bound by the ideologies and beliefs expressed by the bulk of his race? If he opposes that, does this make him a race traitor and the worst kind of racist of them all? Is the article justified in calling Clarence Thomas a race traitor?

Or adversely, is this article and the accusations it makes against Thomas just as bad, if not worse, than the stereotypical white against minority racism that we are all so familiar with?

Post edited at 10:18 pm on Oct. 14, 2008 by Bud2400

now onto my answer. For me it's not just the republican ideology taht makes Clarence THomas racist but his stance on most things concerning "black america" and how he thinks it should function. I can see why some would target his 'rise' if you will as him becoming a Uncle Tom

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you'r etreading into dangerous waters Bud......

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not looking to pick a fight, upset anyone, or anything.

However, I will admit that I made no effort to conceal any bias I have against the author of that article, primarily because I completely disagree with the notion that being of a particular race means that you're obligated to support the positions and beliefs of the collective of that race. I also have a very strong distaste for arguments based on hate, as this one essentially is.  

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now onto my answer. For me it's not just the republican ideology taht makes Clarence THomas racist but his stance on most things concerning "black america" and how he thinks it should function. I can see why some would target his 'rise' if you will as him becoming a Uncle Tom

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I can understand that. Thing is, to call him a "race traitor" or to say that he shouldn't have these views implies that there's a correct view or position for a black individual to have. That essentially destroys the individuality of a black person who goes along with this and preserves a sense of unity among black people, however loose that may be (and in terms of unity, I'm talking about a general closer identification with other blacks than with non-blacks).

It simply seems odd to me that a black person is not perceived to really be "free" to take a view that isn't so cozy for black people in general, whereas with whites, you'll notice things like white guilt, or really any anti-white perspective, be rather prevalent among a fair number of them, yet they aren't totally outcasted by their own race (aside from some of the more extreme white nationalists and the like, of course, which are a very small minority). It's a striking difference I've noticed and it's not just blacks or whites doing one thing or the other. Quite a few whites seem to be under the impression that blacks have a collective identity that every black individual must subscribe to as well.

I'm really iffy with the whole notion of the idea that an individual must take on a perspective that is of their collective race, and not their own individual one.

Post edited at 11:34 pm on Oct. 14, 2008 by Bud2400

for ex: every black male must know some type of sport and be good at it, if not all sports

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I dont think of it as people being against him for not thinking in some collective 'black' mindset but more for some of the comments he's made which could misconstrue his identity into someone that hates the skin their in (like that segregation comment).

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I'd imagine that is the primary factor, however I'd also ask - why is it seemingly heresy for a black person to criticize their own race's collective?

Thomas's quote about separation does not indicate hatred against blacks in any way whatsoever.  It may seem that way if the quote is miscontrued or presented in such a way as to "incriminate" Thomas (as this article has), but he seems to just simply be saying that if all things were truly equal (which historically they never were, and you know he'd recognize this) and blacks and whites were separated, then unless blacks would perform equally as well as whites, there'd have to be some kind of inferiority.  And he's certainly right on this point, however, that doesn't mean that he believes that it would be the case if everything truly were equal (after all, the inequalities between whites and blacks today would make such an example in the present context impossible).

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There are black folks like nipsy russell, Dexter Manley (a republican NFL player who was formerly illiterate) and lynn swann. Plenty of black republicans and such. Most black folks, old gen and new gen seem to acknowledge this. popular consensus and media seems to want to fit the black male/female into a certain role.

for ex: every black male must know some type of sport and be good at it, if not all sports

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Yeah, I agree with you here.  However, as far as popular conceptions of how races are, you can see this with labels even more so.

After all, a white person who acts black is a wigger,  an Asian person who acts black is a chigger, etc.  A black person who acts white is an oreo, not sure about blacks acting as stereotypical other races, but you don't see the same type of thing with a white person acting Asian, a white person acting Latino, vice versa, etc.  And when you try to think about it, you can't even really picture it, whereas you could with a black person and perhaps a white person (based largely from what is the opposite of black, at least in my experience).  This whole acting a certain race appears to largely be a black phenomenon, and how much this is perpetrated by blacks themselves, the media, popular culture, etc. is up in the air.

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Quote: from Springs at 11:49 pm on Oct. 14, 2008

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I dont think of it as people being against him for not thinking in some collective 'black' mindset but more for some of the comments he's made which could misconstrue his identity into someone that hates the skin their in (like that segregation comment).

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I'd imagine that is the primary factor, however I'd also ask - why is it seemingly heresy for a black person to criticize their own race's collective?

The thing is the comment isn't really taken as criticism to some, but maybe something more subtle than that. That and other tales of his goign to that school and how he's reacted towards it and the whoe 'scandal' with his secretary and themeeting witht he black comicbook publisher whot old him "I dont usually like black stuff but this is good" lol

Thomas's quote about separation does not indicate hatred against blacks in any way whatsoever. It may seem that way if the quote is miscontrued or presented in such a way as to "incriminate" Thomas (as this article has), but he seems to just simply be saying that if all things were truly equal (which historically they never were, and you know he'd recognize this) and blacks and whites were separated, then unless blacks would perform equally as well as whites, there'd have to be some kind of inferiority. And he's certainly right on this point, however, that doesn't mean that he believes that it would be the case if everything truly were equal (after all, the inequalities between whites and blacks today would make such an example in the present context impossible).

do we really know what he truly believes though? I never like to say that for anyone >_<

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There are black folks like nipsy russell, Dexter Manley (a republican NFL player who was formerly illiterate) and lynn swann. Plenty of black republicans and such. Most black folks, old gen and new gen seem to acknowledge this. popular consensus and media seems to want to fit the black male/female into a certain role.  

 for ex: every black male must know some type of sport and be good at it, if not all sports

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Yeah, I agree with you here. However, as far as popular conceptions of how races are, you can see this with labels even more so.

After all, a white person who acts black is a wigger, an Asian person who acts black is a chigger, etc. A black person who acts white is an oreo, not sure about blacks acting as stereotypical other races, but you don't see the same type of thing with a white person acting Asian, a white person acting Latino, vice versa, etc. And when you try to think about it, you can't even really picture it, whereas you could with a black person and perhaps a white person (based largely from what is the opposite of black, at least in my experience). This whole acting a certain race appears to largely be a black phenomenon, and how much this is perpetrated by blacks themselves, the media, popular culture, etc. is up in the air.

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and as for a white person acting asian....not another teen movie ftw.or, as some like to call them, narutards? :O

but on a serious note the whole stereotypes equaling a race and if u have those stereotypes you're that race 'at heart' is realy a bit silly of a thing to focus on. Besides most ofthe time someone is called a chigger or a wigger it's always negative connotations applied to blacks which is something i've never liked. Like if they're acting correctly they're acting white or that old adage 'act your age not your color" really now.those type of things, that nonsense needs to be done away with

back to clarence though

i'm just suggesting why some may think of him asa race traitor. I mean, the man holds no favor with me after his whole sticking pubic hairs in his secretaries coke

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well most of htis "Chigger/wigger' nonsense is perpetrated by media and fed to the people alike.

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And I agree.  For the purpose of what we've been talking about, it doesn't reakky matter who's doing it, but that it's certainly being done.

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and as for a white person acting asian....not another teen movie ftw.or, as some like to call them, narutards? :O

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Haha, I dunno.  That kind of thing seems to be more obscure than the whole wigger bullshit.

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but on a serious note the whole stereotypes equaling a race and if u have those stereotypes you're that race 'at heart' is realy a bit silly of a thing to focus on. Besides most ofthe time someone is called a chigger or a wigger it's always negative connotations applied to blacks which is something i've never liked.

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Indeed, but it's not as silly as saying that black individuals should take on the belief of the black collective.  That's attempting to form a stereotype.  The only difference is that the stereotype wouldn't necessarily be viewed as negative; at least not among blacks.

Many tend to emphasize the negative things when it comes to blacks.  I'm not so convinced that this is done from an inbred prejudice as it is just based from dislike / resent / whatever you can think of blacks from that individual's experiences.  Some of which may be fair, some of which may not be.  Nobody's perfect here.

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Like if they're acting correctly they're acting white or that old adage 'act your age not your color" really now.those type of things, that nonsense needs to be done away with

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I think so, too.

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i'm just suggesting why some may think of him asa race traitor. I mean, the man holds no favor with me after his whole sticking pubic hairs in his secretaries coke

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Yes, I understand, and I can see why.  I don't mean to badger you, but whenever I see justifications for calling somebody like him a race traitor, I start to question why anybody ought to be bounded to anything simply due to their race.

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Is this suppose to be a real question?

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The author of the article certainly suggests it and there appears to be a number out there who would support that notion.  Is there something wrong with asking the question and challenging these accusations?

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Quote: from Takinam at 5:22 am on Oct. 15, 2008

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Is this suppose to be a real question?

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The author of the article certainly suggests it and there appears to be a number out there who would support that notion. Is there something wrong with asking the question and challenging these accusations?

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some of the authors 'accusations' are a bit childish

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Nevertheless, it, and the general attitude ostracizing Thomas as a black person, is still there.

but still, I can see why someone would think this of clarence thomas given his upbringing and some of the stigmas associated with his era of growth

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I also wouldn't dive too deep into this "race traitor" talk. People are calling Samuel L. Jackson a race traitor now'a'days/