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Quote: from FurryPanther at 9:41 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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Quote: from Irreducible Complexi at 10:38 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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God made that, dumbass. And this isn't a strictly evolution-related topic. Its about God. What they said was a perfectly valid statement. Who created matter and space if it weren't for a creator/God?

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 Debatable. But regardless, I thought it was only about evolution, and not a religious topic... You did say so yourself.  

 Quote: from Irreducible Complexi at 10:16 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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This isn't about religion.

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 FP

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Don't feed the troll, gaiz

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I'm having fun.

FP

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I think we are in rats' alley
Where the dead men lost their bones.

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You did say so yourself.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 9:36 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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The origins of matter and the universe are not part of the theory of evolution. Those are part of the theories for the origin of the

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God made that, dumbass. And this isn't a strictly evolution-related topic. Its about God. What they said was a perfectly valid statement. Who created matter and space if it weren't for a creator/God?

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Okay, so because we're irreducibly complex and all that, we must have been created. Yet a being infinitely more complex, who is omnipotent, omniscient, and beyond the bounds of space and time doesn't? Hm...

FP

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I think we are in rats' alley
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Quote: from Ju5tin at 9:39 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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WHERE DID GOD COME FROM?

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God is omnipotent and omniscient. He exists beyond the realm of time. He isn't bound by the idea of "creation" and "beginning" as humans are. I know that's a hard concept for you to grasp.

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You think THAT'S true, and you're bashing evolution and abiogenesis, for sounding stupid and illogical? Holy shit.

Post edited at 9:47 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 by Ju5tin

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Ah.... I'll buy it at a high price

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who is omnipotent, omniscient

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 9:45 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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who is omnipotent, omniscient

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what the fuck dont you understand about the words omnipotent and omniscient, you asshole. I dare you to disprove god you faggot. you know he exists but would deny cause you're gonna burn in hell for being a queer.

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I understand that having that ability makes the being much more complex than we are, making the need for them to have a creator even greater, by your logic...

Wow, you're rockin' the ad hominim like it's going out of style.

FP

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I think we are in rats' alley
Where the dead men lost their bones.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 9:45 pm on Oct. 19, 2008

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who is omnipotent, omniscient

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what the fuck dont you understand about the words omnipotent and omniscient, you asshole. I dare you to disprove god you faggot. you know he exists but would deny cause you're gonna burn in hell for being a queer.

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1) Darwin did not discuss irreducible complexity
2) The primary backer of irreducible complexity, Michael Behe accepts evolution
3) Sequential tests ignore reality
4) God, Abiogenesis and Evolution are not mutually exclusive

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Who's AC?

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Sorry. I tend not to remember certain people.

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who the hell doesnt remember anti christ

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Oh shit. This entire thread is a joke then.

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You have proposed nothing except rampant belief that something complicated was made by something more complicated. And that complicated something is too complicated for us to possible understand how it created the complicated something that we now take t be DNA.

In effect, you've achieved nothing and haven't budged evolution from its secular throne. Darwin spent a good part of his life working through his journals, and we can attest to just how exactly some of his methods work.

What can attest to make your methods work?

How can we sure anything exists in a world where, logically, it is so easy to just nothing does exist?